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Well....after not being able to see an obvious leak, I used a fluorescent dye and UV torch.
I was sure it's my head gasket but it could also be the section above it.....is it called the "cam housing"?.....annoying as I've just changed the cambelt and it'll have to be slipped off the cam pulley again.
It's annoying because the engine sounds awesome when it spins up and drives perfectly, apart from this annoying oil leak so compression doesn't appear to be a problem.
Maybe it coming from the bottom of the cam box and running down making it look like the head gasket?
For those who know my new member and ownership status, I'm a construction manager, not a mechanic but have a healthy interest in mechanics.
Within the first 3 weeks of ownership, I've done an oil and filter change and a cambelt and alternator change.......baptism by fire!
I said that I wanted to learn and grow with my X1/9 but not this quickly!....LOL
At least I know the head hasn't been cooked and warped so that's a bonus I guess......hey ho.....onwards and upwards!
Any advice welcome!
Gaz.
I was sure it's my head gasket but it could also be the section above it.....is it called the "cam housing"?.....annoying as I've just changed the cambelt and it'll have to be slipped off the cam pulley again.
It's annoying because the engine sounds awesome when it spins up and drives perfectly, apart from this annoying oil leak so compression doesn't appear to be a problem.
Maybe it coming from the bottom of the cam box and running down making it look like the head gasket?
For those who know my new member and ownership status, I'm a construction manager, not a mechanic but have a healthy interest in mechanics.
Within the first 3 weeks of ownership, I've done an oil and filter change and a cambelt and alternator change.......baptism by fire!
I said that I wanted to learn and grow with my X1/9 but not this quickly!....LOL
At least I know the head hasn't been cooked and warped so that's a bonus I guess......hey ho.....onwards and upwards!
Any advice welcome!
Gaz.
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1 year 5 months ago #43933
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.....can anyone offer some advice on if there is a sequence to undo and torque up the 4 outer bolts and 4 inner bolts under the cam cover of the cam housing?
I've found the torque settings okay but wondered if it mattered about the sequence.
I'm thinking maybe the two inner ones and two outer ones first in a diagonal pattern then maybe work outwards opposite ends?
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I've found the torque settings okay but wondered if it mattered about the sequence.
I'm thinking maybe the two inner ones and two outer ones first in a diagonal pattern then maybe work outwards opposite ends?
Gaz.
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1 year 5 months ago #43939
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Hi Gareth,
It could be the gasket between the cam shaft housing and cylinder head which is leaking. Another leak could be the cam shaft cover plate on the top. There is a seal around this plate that can leak.
I don't think there is a specific sequence for tightening up the cam shaft housing bolts. It is a case of going round and tightening them all gradually to the same torque.
Cheers
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It could be the gasket between the cam shaft housing and cylinder head which is leaking. Another leak could be the cam shaft cover plate on the top. There is a seal around this plate that can leak.
I don't think there is a specific sequence for tightening up the cam shaft housing bolts. It is a case of going round and tightening them all gradually to the same torque.
Cheers
Andy
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1 year 5 months ago #43940
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.....thanks Andy.
Going to hit it this weekend after purchasing a new paper cam housing gasket from Eurosport UK.
If it's the original gasket, I can see why it might fail after all this time. I just wonder if my original saga where the previous owner put in 0W/30 fully synthetic oil has caused this.....who knows?
One final question.....is there an easy way to remove the odd looking end clips on the throttle linkage bar to the carb?
Gareth.
Going to hit it this weekend after purchasing a new paper cam housing gasket from Eurosport UK.
If it's the original gasket, I can see why it might fail after all this time. I just wonder if my original saga where the previous owner put in 0W/30 fully synthetic oil has caused this.....who knows?
One final question.....is there an easy way to remove the odd looking end clips on the throttle linkage bar to the carb?
Gareth.
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1 year 5 months ago #43943
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Hi Gareth give the clips a good clean up with paraffin or the like so you can see how they work the top one for instance pushes upward away from the bar . if you clean them up and lightly grease the nipple on reassembly they will come of much easier next time
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1 year 5 months ago #43946
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I took some photos for you
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1 year 5 months ago #43954
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.....brilliant!
Thank you so much for taking the time to take these Rich.
It was just what I needed.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to take these Rich.
It was just what I needed.
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1 year 5 months ago #43956
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quick question for you Gareth the torque settings you got for the cam housing bolts and the cam shaft top plate nuts can you share those please as Haynes is very vague
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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #43957
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Hi Rich,
Attached a small photo from the Haynes manual stating Camshaft housing nuts.....14.5 lb f ft.
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Attached a small photo from the Haynes manual stating Camshaft housing nuts.....14.5 lb f ft.
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1 year 5 months ago #43958
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thanks Gareth yes I'm not sure what the Haynes manual is referring to as the camshaft housing is bolted on on the 1500's anyway and the nuts on the camshaft cover are very small I don't think I would try tightening them to that amount anybody else any thoughts on this?
on my car the oil filler plug was leaking ive attached a photo difficult to see but the locking plate had a bent lug also leaks come from the manual petrol pump I found my leaks by taking the bulkhead inspection plate off starting her up and seeing what was going on with a torch
on my car the oil filler plug was leaking ive attached a photo difficult to see but the locking plate had a bent lug also leaks come from the manual petrol pump I found my leaks by taking the bulkhead inspection plate off starting her up and seeing what was going on with a torch
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1 year 5 months ago #43959
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.....yes, the cover plate has only small bolts so I guess are just pinched up enough to sequeeze the gasket.
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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #43962
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Well.....that was a bit more involved than I thought it was going to be!
More bolts to undo than I expected and some of them quite difficult to access. The old gasket was definately made from thin rubber. It was suggested that it might be an old paper one that's just been inpregnated with oil over the years but it was deffo rubber.
I've replaced it with a paper one.....it does make you jump a little when you break the seal and you hear the valve tappits drop down!....LOL
Additional bits I needed to remove were the black plate behind the cam pulley with the timing mark on as there was a bolt between it and the pulley and the two bolts from the side engine mounting that I guess stabilises any enginemovement as it's bolted to the cam housing.
Getting the cam belt back on was a faff again. At least the crank and cam pulley timing marks lined up afterwards and it runs. I think I've moved the pulley that drives the distributor rotor arm again. I can set that up again later but it runs okay.
The cam cover gasket was also a bit worse for wear so I've ordered another but thats a quick fix now.
Thanks to everyone for all the advice.....it really helped......another job done and more X1/9 skills learnt!
More bolts to undo than I expected and some of them quite difficult to access. The old gasket was definately made from thin rubber. It was suggested that it might be an old paper one that's just been inpregnated with oil over the years but it was deffo rubber.
I've replaced it with a paper one.....it does make you jump a little when you break the seal and you hear the valve tappits drop down!....LOL
Additional bits I needed to remove were the black plate behind the cam pulley with the timing mark on as there was a bolt between it and the pulley and the two bolts from the side engine mounting that I guess stabilises any enginemovement as it's bolted to the cam housing.
Getting the cam belt back on was a faff again. At least the crank and cam pulley timing marks lined up afterwards and it runs. I think I've moved the pulley that drives the distributor rotor arm again. I can set that up again later but it runs okay.
The cam cover gasket was also a bit worse for wear so I've ordered another but thats a quick fix now.
Thanks to everyone for all the advice.....it really helped......another job done and more X1/9 skills learnt!
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