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I am thinking the carb cooling fan is a waste as it seems to take its air from nowhere cool.
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I have used a K&N filter for years. I just prefer the look of them and the increased access it gives in the engine bay.
In reality they don't really improve performance and as Cameron says they are sucking in warm air from the engine bay. Fitting a K&N filter to the existing filter housing is a better way to go for performance.
The breather pipe needs a separate filter. Below is a picture of my engine bay showing how I have positioned the crank case breather filter.
At the end of the day it's down to personal preference I think.
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The engine bay isn't always that clean on my car, however I am a bit OCD with it! :woohoo:
If you run some trunking (tube) from the inlet on the filter housing down towards the air scoop on the near side, you should be pulling cold air into the filter when moving.
Regarding the carb cooling fan; the air is pulled in from the scuttle at the side of the engine bay. There is a seal on the engine cover that when the engine cover is closed means this area is sealed from the engine bay and is drawing in cool (ish) air in to the carb fan.
The picture below shows he seal on the engine cover at the top left hand side of the picture.
I think what you are proposing sounds about right though.
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Thanks for the help, its good to have clever people to bounce ideas off.
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The carb cooling fan helps with the hot starting issue. If you are planning on removing it then it would be sensible to go for electronic ignition (which overcomes the hot start issue).
Just having an after market filter wont get rid of hot starting issues.
Running some air hose from the carb cooling fan inlet hole is one way of pulling cooler air in, but it would be better to have the air hose pointing down towards the air scoop because you will get better air flow in.
That's just my thinking, others may have a different opinion.
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But it was not using an electric fuel pump at the time which probably would have helped.
I recon reinstating the manifold heat shield would help. Also wrapping the exhaust.
It's a problem with most engines that have a carb with the exhaust and inlet manifolds on one side. At least when they get hot...
Who needs 4th gear anyway...
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Out of curiosity, what are people defining as a "hot starting issue"? When at working temp, mine needs a 2-3 seconds on the starter & a pump of the throttle pedal before firing up. It's not what I would call a "hot starting issue" though? Or are they all like that?
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I have left my GF as built, i.e. points, mechanical fuel pump, and carb cooling fan.
I am lucky in that the exhaust manifold heat shroud is still in place as well!
When I first bought the car the carb cooling fan wasn't working and I had issues when re-starting the car when hot and driving away there was instances of fuel starvation. Once I got the fan working again it cured most of those problems.
Generally I have found if you have the timing set up correctly and the cooling fan is working as it should do then I can re-start when hot with no problems.
If you search through some of the previous technical threads on this forum you will find plenty of further information about this issue. it has been talked about a lot.
I am not over familiar with electronic ignition systems, but I know that quite a lot of people use the lumention one (others are available).
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I found an electric fuel pump (facet) sorted out any hot starting issues, it also helps with starting when the car has been laid up for a while. I've got a separate switch for the pump, so I can switch it on, wait for the sound of the return line piddling petrol back into the tank and then crank the engine. Had no problems starting with points, although I'd like to fit electronic ignition in the future. Threw away the cooling fan many years ago, the pump mounts neatly on the fan bracket.
Mechanical fuel pumps can behave oddly when they get worn out or the diaphragm gets holed. I had one that would randomly get an 'airlock', could be after 3 or 30 miles. Only way to get going again would be to take the fuel line off the carb, suck the petrol back through (re-priming the pump I guess) and then you'd be ok for a few more miles. There's nothing like the taste of petrol to spur you on to fixing the problem!
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