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1300 gearbox

cameron
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11 years 2 months ago #33919 by cameron

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I stripped down the engine on my 1300 today and found it needs a major overhaul worn bores,burnt valves and whatever else might lurking. So do recon it or throw in a reconditioned 1500 unit which I have got. I know it does not sound right but this 1300 has been re sprayed red and no longer original. Has anyone done this and does the 4 speed box marry up to the 1500 block?

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11 years 2 months ago #33923 by Michael

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It won't work tou need to change the complete back end

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11 years 2 months ago #33924 by Andy Rowley

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Why don't you fit a 5 speed gear box rather than the 4 speed 1300 gear box?
Not sure whether you will need to alter the rear suspension as the 1500 sits higher at the back than the 1300.

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11 years 2 months ago #33929 by 1.8TS Sports

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From what I understand, the 5 speed doesn't fit in the 1300 body as the 1500 body has a modified chassis rail to accommodate the longer transmission.

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11 years 2 months ago #33930 by peter thorpe

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why not fit the 1500 with the four speed gearbox with a lower final drive if i remember the 1300 does 16.5mph per 1000rpm you could fit a strada 105tc final drive which would give you 18mph(maybe more) per 1000rpm which is basically the same mph per 1000rpm as the x1/9 1500 gearbox

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11 years 2 months ago #33932 by S.J. GREEN

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When I bought mine it came with a 1500 engine and a 4 speed gearbox. It had retained the 1300 flywheel, clutch and starter motor.
A few years later I changed it to a 5 speed gearbox. I didn't have to do any body work mods, even though it's a 1300 the chassis rail was like the 1500 version.
However I did have to change both rear hubs, axles, flywheel, starter and clutch.
I seem to remember that the 1500 engine is slightly taller too, you may have to modify the engine lid brackets to give a little more clearance.

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11 years 2 months ago #33934 by cameron

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Hi, thanks for the replies, I am wondering now to do a complete recon of this 1300 engine because it seems to be as broad as it is long and it does keep it fairly original to the chassis. But I have learnt something in the mechanical differences. S. J. Green have you got any pictures of your x1/9 with the lido bumpers because it looks stunning.

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11 years 2 months ago #33935 by S.J. GREEN

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There's a few here in Ireland 2009

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11 years 1 month ago #33938 by Speedy Fiat

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Any exxy engine is likely to be getting a bit past it by now and so a rebuild would be a good option - guaranteed results but definitely more expensive. However, a few inexpensive tweaks added into a 1300 rebuild along with a decent carb could have you producing more hp than a standard 1500 with no worry about spending money and time on the conversion.

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cameron
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11 years 1 month ago #33940 by cameron

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What sort of tweaks?

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11 years 1 month ago #33941 by peter thorpe

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Well the easiest upgrades are the 1500cc carb fits the 1300...a decent sports manifold and exhaust along with the carb would give you the power of a 1500

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11 years 1 month ago #33942 by cameron

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I have got a 1500 carb with manual choke conversion and sports exhaust, just need to find a manifold now. I took delivery of my lido bumpers today to go onto it, I just need to make an executive decision on what colour to spray it.

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11 years 1 month ago #33943 by peter thorpe

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this might be what your looking for but read the descritption as the picture is not of the manifold for sale,this is in stainless steel www.eurosport-uk.net/shop/index.php?main...=1_8&products_id=268

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11 years 1 month ago #33978 by paolo

Replied by paolo on topic 1300 gearbox

I have a '78 1300 and engine was replaced with a 1500, using the 1300 flywheel/clutch it still has the original 4 speed 'box.
That way you avoid changing the left wishbone, driveshafts and other bits and pieces.

Also using parts from the x1/9 4-speed with a 5 speed box like the Strada 60 would allow you to have a 5 speed with the tripods....

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