Brake options

To upgrade the front brakes are there any other known option other that the Uno Turbo route (calipers and discs)?

Clearly Uno turbos are long gone these days.

Cheers

gordon

Have a look at the midwest site. They offer a brake upgrade that is opposed pot and should be better for racing than even the uno turbo option.

yet to confirm the offset but I think the new panda 1.3D has the same bolt spacing and if used with a uno turbo disc (which you can easily get still) should fit, maybe with a spacer between the hub and carrier. If there was one in a local breakers yard I'd go down and check for you.

are you using 13" rims still?

also the fiat 500 1.3 16V MJT shows as having 240mm vented discs

Panda 2 in 1.3 16V MJT

Panda 2 van 1.2i 4x4 and 1.3 16V MJT

if you're off to india the fiat palio 1.2i also.

Uno turbo calipers are still out there - they were also used on the Alfa 155 2.0, Fiat Tempra 2.0 and Lancia Dedra - Part nos are TCA839 (or CA482) for the N/S and TCA840 (or CA482R) for the O/S
not cheap - approx £60 each plus vat plus core cost if you dont have calipers to send back (thankfully my parts shop aren't too fussy about what calipers I return!)

Harder to find are the carriers!

Is fitting Uno Turbo calipers a simple bolt on project?

Do the larger pistons not cause longer pedal travel?

The UT fronts have more or less the same diameter pistons (~48 mm) as the original X1/9's Bendix fronts so there is no change in pedal travel. The UT swap gives more reliable brakes that are less prone to fade.

I've got UT style Lucas/Girling front calipers on my Dallara lookalike, from an Alfa 155, with 257x20 discs. These have 54 mm pistons and the pedal travel is a bit longer.

The Panda / 500 models listed above also have a pistons ~48 mm diameter hence no change in pedal travel.

These could provide a more reliable source of parts to the old UT swap with the same benefits.

Anybody live near a breakers yard with one of these in? It would be easy to see if it bolts up or not.

Rachael Fearnhead wrote: I've got UT style Lucas/Girling front calipers on my Dallara lookalike, from an Alfa 155, with 257x20 discs. These have 54 mm pistons and the pedal travel is a bit longer.

Rachel what do you have fitted to the rear?

I haven't fitted them yet as I don't want the car off the road right now, but I will be fitting 257x12 x40 high discs with Fiat Croma calipers. These are again Lucas-Girling with 38 mm pistons and have the correct handbrake lever arrangement to fit the X1/9 handbrake cables with some adapter ferrules added.

have you worked out a diagram / dimensions for the brackets that need to be fabricated yet?

I have but I wouldn't guarantee it until I've tried it out myself.

Hi was at www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk and they show the panda 1.3 calipers as being a good match except that the bolt spacing is 148mm IIRC the uno turbo and X19 spacing is 130mm.

I haven't fitted them yet as I don't want the car off the road right now, but I will be fitting 257x12 x40 high discs with Fiat Croma calipers. These are again Lucas-Girling with 38 mm pistons and have the correct handbrake lever arrangement to fit the X1/9 handbrake cables with some adapter ferrules added.

Anyone done this setup?

Andrew Punter wrote: Hi was at www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk and they show the panda 1.3 calipers as being a good match except that the bolt spacing is 148mm IIRC the uno turbo and X19 spacing is 130mm.

The bolt spacing quoted is for the caliper to carrier, which is not the important part, the carrier to the hub is I believe that that is still the same as used on the x1/9 but needs clarification.