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13 years 8 months ago #27989 by Nigel Dale
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Can anyone enlighten me as to where the twin horns are to be found ?, mine are not working at present, and I have changed the steering wheel for a later Bertone one and can hear the relay clicking.

I do prefer the orginal wheel with the holes in but cannot get the relay to work with that one !


Sorry if this sounds a bit numptyish ! :blush: but cannot find then anywhere.

Thanks

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #27990 by Nigel Dale
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SORRY !

I have loads of various spare parts if anyone's interested.

These range from rear light clusters door cards, steering columb with keys, wiper motors and assembly, headlamp inspectiuon covers, engine cover, carpet trimsto a targa top to name but a few, PM me if interested before I place them on fleabay !!!

Thanks Guys

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #27991 by Andrew Punter
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Hi, on mine the horns are mounted in the front wings just behind/below the headlight pods. If you take off the headlight motor inspection covers you should find them down in the bottom of the space, one on each side - bad earths were an issue IIRC.
When I needed to replace one for an MOT my local parts place had some thing very similar to the originals.

Happy hunting!
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13 years 8 months ago #27992 by Nigel Dale
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Thanks Andrew.

I have looked there as well ! so it seems that there are none, hence no sound :ohmy:

I will take another look in the morning, thanks for the advice.

Keep you informed

Nigel

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #27994 by Rachael F
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Seems a bit rum. Must have been removed by a disgruntled neighbour!

The supply wires to the horns are light blue, see if you can trace them down to their ends. The horns are well hidden, each is fixed to the underneath of the bracket that crosses under the headlight with the headlight cables clipped to it.

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13 years 8 months ago #27995 by Nigel Dale
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Hummm ! amazing concidering it passe an MOT in Feb.

I have purchased new twin horns and will endevour to fit tomorrow.

Having just purchased it (pics to follow), i am a new member in Eastbourne, so finding my way around the car, just this evening I noticed while the car up on ramps all of the n/s drive shaft boltd all hanging out! (dodgey), so all re-tightened.

Loads to do ! :ohmy:

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #28039 by Nigel Dale
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Hi Andrew.

Yes I feel taht mine should be there too !, but upon inspection there are none fitted ! :blush:
Makes me feel a little suspect about the MOT !, the car was on ebay a few weeks ago, you may of seen it, Red over Black VS, it appears that the Mot testers in south Wales are tend to over look the obvious during the MOT as I was informed on the way home by a mate who was driving my car back full of spares that I had no brake lights either.

On close inspection of the car, it appears that the overslight of horns and breaklights and lack of the hradligths raising when using the flasher on the stalk to name but a few items I feel it should of failed !

As the breaklight switch was so corroded it looks like it's not worked for years, I am now putting the car in for a new MOT now these are all sorted just as piece of mind ,although it's not due until next March !!!.

But when purchased I was informed by the seller that he used a switch on the dash to operate the horns, there appeared to be no trace of any switch !

Now all replaced and working , I feel that a re MOT is in order to see if any other items need attention.

Keep you all posted, ;)

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #28041 by 1.8TS Sports
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Nigel, what did you have to do to make the headlights raise when using the flasher on the stalk?

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13 years 8 months ago - 13 years 8 months ago #28048 by Nigel Dale
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Ahhh! now there's another thing, THEY DONT RAISE EITHER ! surprise surprise :lol: the headlights work fine when switched from the dash, but they no workie on the stalk.

What made you ask ? is this a simple fix ? as I have a spare stalk assembly on another spare steering colum.

Do you know the car? :blush: or is this a common problem ?

I don't think Iv'e bought a pup, it drives very well, and at £5oo.oo, even if it does need a little work, I'm a happy bunny at that price.

Pics will follow once iv'e work out how to upload to this site.


Thanks

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto
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13 years 8 months ago #28057 by 1.8TS Sports
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No I believe that they only go up with side light's as standard, I thought you may have come up with a cunning way to raise them for the flash, instead of illuminating the ground.

Not sure if anybody else has achieved this?

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13 years 8 months ago #28058 by Nigel Dale
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Ahh, sorry! but mine raise when I put just the side lights on but do no luminate until dip beam is selected.

The guy I brought it from has just fitted High low gas bulbs, which I will be removing when I can afford a set of standard units.

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #28059 by Rachael F
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You can fit a relay triggered off the main beam to apply 12V to the headlight control relay. That will raise the pods when you flash the headlights. I'll make up a wiring diagram if you want to do this. For me, I have fitted driving lights using the spare wires Fiat kindly provided, so no winking and flashing is needed.

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13 years 8 months ago #28068 by Nigel Dale
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Thats a neat idea !, if you could help with a diagram that would be very helpfull. ;)

you mention that Fiat kindly supplied the wiring for this?, is it tucked under the bumper somewhere?

I will purchase a set of drivin lamps, as they do look neat on the X1/9.

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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13 years 8 months ago #28074 by Rachael F
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I'm not sure about the earlier cars, but if you delve into the space behind/below the headlight pod you should find a pair of wires, one green, the other black, which end in a male/female bullet connector. This pair of wires is taken off the main beam wiring and allows you to connect driving lights that will come on with the main beam. Be aware that this puts double the load on the main beam wiring so make sure all connectors back to the fuse box are in good condition or you will end up with four dim lights instead of two slightly less dim lights!

Attached is the wiring diagram for the headlight pod control. The centre relay of the three is the up/down controller and it is triggered to command "up pods" when the sidelights are switched on. All you need to do is copy the connections of that relay with another identical 5 pin changeover type relay, but connect your new relay's 30 terminal to either one of the main beam wires rather than the side lights. Take the supply to terminal 85 from an ignition supplied circuit, for example the radio power lead. There is no need for any new fuses as you are connecting into protected circuits.

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13 years 8 months ago #28088 by Nigel Dale
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Thanks so much Rachael.

Thank so helpful, I will endeviour to have a rumage around tomorrow.

Very Knowledgable !

Thank you.

I will keep you informed as to progress.

1983 1500 VS 57k
1994 Pug 405 Estate ! Lovley
1998 Saab 900 Auto

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