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11 years 5 months ago #33464 by Martin Rutter
I am building a new engine for hill climb use and I am looking for a tubular exhaust manifold. Does anyone have anything suitable? CSC seems to be the only readily available option but I am not sure if this manifold offers any significant flow improvement apart from making a lot of noise? Any suggestions welcome. Thanks

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11 years 5 months ago #33471 by peter thorpe
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationnot sure if this is of any interest to you its a lot of money but will last a lifetime :)

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11 years 5 months ago #33473 by Rachael F
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Wow - a lot of money!

I guess there will be something available from the Italian tuners. It might be simpler to just visit an exhaust specialist and get one made, that's my plan for the V6.

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11 years 5 months ago #33475 by Robert Brockwell
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI use Optima Stainless Steel to laser cut base plates and then it's a case of either finding off cut bends of Dairy pipe at work or have a look on eBay...







A couple of hours later and you have the exhaust you desire fora fraction of the cost of a ready made one. ;)





£600!!!



I'll do one for my car some time to see how much I can do it for. :)

If my competitor breaks a leg they're off the grid for six months; if I break my leg all I need is a couple of minutes and a 5mm Allen key. Alex Zanardi.
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11 years 5 months ago #33480 by peter thorpe
i look forward to seeing your work Robert, stainless steel parts are always way over the top price wise

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11 years 5 months ago #33490 by Rachael F
Replied by Rachael F on topic Tubular exhaust manifold
I was going to get together a bunch of parts and let Nick Troth have a go on the V6 car, but when I started looking there are so many different options and configurations that might suit I thought it better to just take the car to a specialist and let them make one up to fit.

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11 years 5 months ago #33491 by Andrew Punter
Anyone out done the math on how long the headers need to be to useful? or whether 4 into 1, 4 into 2, or 4 into 2 into 1 is better?

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11 years 5 months ago #33492 by Rachael F
Replied by Rachael F on topic Tubular exhaust manifold
You need to invest in Guy Croft's book! Julian B might have some knowledge he can impart.

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11 years 5 months ago #33493 by W. GORDON FOGARTY
As an engineer yes I have considered the maths and then I spoke to some experts.
The CSC 4 branch is ok for road use and will improve mid-range torque but longer primaries are required for a high revving race type engine.
I think it was Superrace (italian company) made my stainless steel system. 28" primaries 4-1 and a very snug fit on my hillclimb X1/9. Splendid.
Just about legal to MSA noise test.
I'll find some pics and add later.

Gordon

Fiat x1/9 hillclimb car (competition modded)
Fiat X1/9 road car (basically standard)
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Cloverleaf
Porsche 911 (996)
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11 years 5 months ago #33495 by Martin Rutter
Thanks Gordon. I have just looked at Super Race in Italy and they do seem to have some good options. They do have an out and out race system but also a less extreme 4 into 1 which looks interesting. They say you have to request diameter of "round exits" from either 60/70/76/80/90/100. I assume they mean the final exhaust diameter in mm!!

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11 years 5 months ago #33498 by W. GORDON FOGARTY
Super Race manifold & system in place

Fiat x1/9 hillclimb car (competition modded)
Fiat X1/9 road car (basically standard)
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Cloverleaf
Porsche 911 (996)
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11 years 5 months ago #33499 by peter thorpe
that looks great gordon thanks for sharing

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